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04/29/2010 1:15 AM  

 How do you feel about tracks who are in the Norcal Series scheduling club races on the same weekend as the Norcal Series races?

Rule #1 

  1. Hosting tracks shall not hold any R/C racing events on dates that will conflict with any of the 8 rounds of the Series.

     So rescheduling your club race to Sunday is a work around the rules.

Is this ok? 

How do you thick it effects the track scheduled for that weekend?

 

Sound off lets here what you think.

 

 


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04/29/2010 2:03 AM  

if its a rule between the tracks in the series than they should folow the rules and reschedule till sunday, they shouldnt have scheduled that day anyways if it were agreed upon thats bullshit! cause its gonna take racers away from the hosting track..If u are in agreement in a series to have your track host a race than do whats asked or dont ask to be in the series next year.


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04/29/2010 8:18 AM  

It doesn't matter if it is the NorCal series or any other series. If a track is a Host Track to any series Race that track should shut down EVERY WEEKEND that the series is racing and try to get all of it's Club Racers to attend these races at the other tracks. The only exclusion to this may be a track like NorCal that offers on-road and also 1/10th scale racing and if that is the case they should not run any classes that are being run in the series. I think it would help to make sure that the series get's plenty of entries throughout the whole series and not just certain tracks.

 

By changing the race date to Sunday from saturday is still breaking the rules as I know a lot of people that won't risk going to another track and racing on saturday in fear of breaking and not being able to do their normal club race on sunday. 

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04/29/2010 9:12 AM  
personally i wouldnt care about switching the days to sunday , then some people get to race twice , sweet ! other wise Dave I totally agree.

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04/29/2010 9:22 AM  
There should not be a club race scheduled the same day as the track is hosting norcal. I think sun is a good fix or the hosting track should just promote the norcal series and invite the local club racers to join. A race is a race sat or sun or both. A club race should not be scheduled on the same day as the track is hosting an event period.

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04/29/2010 9:37 AM  
is there multiple tracks doing this right now ?, or was this just question and topic?

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04/29/2010 9:42 AM  
John , Is this rule in writing or is it a common sence thing ?
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04/29/2010 9:45 AM  
Dave, I think you hit the nail on the head.

I think tracks that are involved with the Norcal Series should shutdown that weekend and support the Series and the host track.

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04/29/2010 9:48 AM  

 Doogie, The rule I posted is the official rule of the Norcal Series. But, It only states the same day as the event.

The rule needs to be changed to same WEEKEND.

 


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04/29/2010 9:51 AM  
Big Rick, If you do some searching around. You will find that a few tracks are doing this.

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04/29/2010 10:18 AM  
John, Then if it's in writing then tracks should follow the rules, however Rescue is having an Oval race only this weekend ,and most oval racers don't run off road ,but their are a few as myself ,but theres no conflict of intrest there .... The rule may need to change to say maybe no off road class's run that the norcal series run on the same weekend, Norcal hobby should not have to shut down a on road race or a 1/0 scale that they could run on the same weekend , no conflict there , Other tracks may have had their races on the calandar before norcal series posted theirs ..

Here's a question How do you expect other tracks to follow the rules ,when Kraig from DRC doesn't follow the rules and he's the Director,top dog , of the norcal series ?
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OOHh.


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04/29/2010 10:39 AM  
John people will come to River Front to race because of the work that you Phillip and Jason put in on the track and because of the fun ya'll make it for everyone .. You guy's truely put on the best race in northern ca. You rank right up there with the nitro pit !! you guys integrity are second to none ... I wish River Front ran every weekend !!!! I can't wait till the nova race and the warm up !! My hats off to Ya'll !!
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04/29/2010 2:37 PM  
I agree with John 100%.There should be no other 1/8 sale off-road racing on the same weekend.Oval,1/10,corr trucks on sunday is no problem.just think its more fun for everyone with a bigger turnout,not guys flaking to go race local on sunday.just my 2 cents.
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04/29/2010 2:53 PM  
I think tracks should still be allowed to have a club race on the sunday after a series race. Not everyone that races wants to race the series so local tracks should be allowed to cater to those people.
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04/29/2010 8:12 PM  

+ 1......  I agree no scheduled races on the weekend of a series race. Keep the turnouts up ya kno.......


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04/29/2010 9:33 PM  

I don't think that having all participating tracks close down for a weekend is going to increase the turnout at all or by much. The people who are dedicated to the series are going to show up regardless and the people who aren't going to show are still not going to show. Shutting down the tracks that want to have a club race on sunday is only going to hurt racing for the people not interested.

Remember you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. The same applies here, you can shut down club races for the series, but you can't make the club racers race the series.  

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04/29/2010 10:06 PM  
The reason for the Norcal series is to have all of the Norcal racers @ the same track on that given raceday. It also gives the track owners a chance to get out and race and not worry about running the show. A track will not fall apart if it misses 1 race weekend. Have your club race the following weekend. If a track can't live without racing for 1 weekend then why join the series?

Its time for all the tracks to work together

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Posted By Nevada on 04/29/2010 10:06 PM
The reason for the Norcal series is to have all of the Norcal racers @ the same track on that given raceday. It also gives the track owners a chance to get out and race and not worry about running the show. A track will not fall apart if it misses 1 race weekend. Have your club race the following weekend. If a track can't live without racing for 1 weekend then why join the series?

Its time for all the tracks to work together

 

John, please dont think i'm bagging on the series, any particular track or person. I'm just trying to engage the conversation by showing a different side. I used to run club races and point series so I'm not opposed to either.


A track will not fall apart if it misses 1 race weekend. - Agreed


If a track can't live without racing for 1 weekend then why join the series - I dont run a track so i cannot comment from an operator point of view, but from what I've seen some people only race at the track that is closest to them and dont care about point series. When i raced at rescue there were people I talked to that wouldnt even go down the hill to PC because rescue was closer and they liked the convenience. I think its because of the "casual racer" the Nor Cal series only really had a hand full of people who attended all the races.  I think most of these people only showed because it came to their local track.  Club race or no club race these "casual racers" aren't going to drive across California to race. 

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04/29/2010 11:37 PM  
john,

let me give a little perspective from my home track(CVR), we have tried and i mean tried to get our guys to go out of town to race.
tried organizing car pools everything, our track has 2 types that will go out of town, new racers(who will do anything just to race) and die hards cut of the same mould.

from down here the issue i see is distance it takes me 3hrs15min to get to delta i left at 3am to go to nor-cal and got home at 11pm, thats a trek! lmao.

delta is the closest out of town track(modesto just came on line and doesnt really cater to 1/8th scale yet) to the south is exeter and FTH in that order 1hr 30min to exeter and about 2hrs for FTH, of the 2 i have no desire to hit either as i dont really like the tracks or how they are run.

so that leaves someone like me to choose CVR or delta or go over the hill to HHR or REV,you guys have what 8-10 tracks all less than 2hrs away? i think you argument is valid for NORCAL but not further south.

we had a great turnout for the GS race last sat but other than our "big" races and the norcal series how often do other racers come down? and i mean that in a not taking a shot way, i hear alot about how all the tracks need to work together and i agree with you 100%.

i can assure you of this CVR having a club race on a scheduled norcal date is going to have 0 effect on norcals turnout, the ones who are going to go to norcal are gonna go wether the local track is open or not.

from my point of view what would make norcal stronger is firming up the rules,running a smoother program and being fair all around.

like it or not those are some of the biggest complaints i hear

on another note cant wait to see you guys at norcal at riverfront, you guys always put on a great show!
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